Yahoo address triggers graymail

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by lr » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:01 pm
Got an e-mail from a user at yahoo (literally, their address is [email protected]). It ended up in greymail. No problem I found it there, and fished it out.

Since I used to run my on spam assassin, and then used to fine-tune the settings here (mostly for fun) decided to look at the scores, and found something surprising (I formatted the header line for better readability):

X-Spam-Report:
* -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [98.139.212.196 listed in list.dnswl.org]
* 5.0 SONIC_YAHOO No description available.
* 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (someone12[at]yahoo.com)
* 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED
* 0.2 FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT Reply-To freemail username ends in digit (someone12[at]yahoo.com)
* -0.1 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain
* 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (someone12[at]yahoo.com)
* -0.4 SNF4SA Message Sniffer
* -0.5 DCC_REPUT_00_12 DCC reputation between 0 and 12 % (mostly ham)
* 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid
* -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [98.139.212.196 listed in wl.mailspike.net]
* -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders
* 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid
* 1.2 NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED ADSP custom_med hit, and not from a mailing list

Most of that looks reasonable, and I don't worry about the various scores that are around +- 1. The one that worries me is "SONIC_YAHOO", which gives a solid 5 points all at once, and pushes this message into greymail (the threshold is right there at 5). Does this mean that any e-mail from users @yahoo.com will go into greymail? If yes, is that my mistake (should I increase the cutoff from 5), or is something misconfigured here?

Just to make it clear: This is not terribly upsetting, and some ham going into the spam bin is to be expected, but this might Sonic's attention.
Linda and Ralph and John
by kgc » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:07 am
I've removed the SONIC_YAHOO rule, it was definitely overly broad for having such a high score.
Kelsey Cummings
System Architect, Sonic.net, Inc.
by lr » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:11 am
Thanks!
Linda and Ralph and John
by lr » Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:32 am
The problem is back, but this time it's not a Sonic-specific rule, but a DCC rule. This is an e-mail message from a neighbor with whom we communicate frequently, their e-mail address is like [email protected], delivered via yahoo groups:

X-Spam-Report: * -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no * trust * [98.139.212.179 listed in list.dnswl.org] * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider * (sara_anderson_home[at]yahoo.com) * -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay * domain * -1.0 SONIC_FRIEND Someone you've likely exchanged email with before * -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) * [98.139.212.179 listed in wl.mailspike.net] * 0.1 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 0.0 HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST BODY: HTML font color similar or identical to * background * 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars * -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's * domain * 3.0 DCC_CHECK Detected as bulk mail by DCC (dcc-servers.net) * 6.0 DCC_REPUT_99_100 DCC reputation between 99 % or higher (spam) * -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature * 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily * valid * -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders * 1.4 FSL_BULK_SIG Bulk signature with no Unsubscribe

The problem here are the two DCC_xxx flags, which push it into gray mail, since they make the total be greater than 5.

I could just turn DCC off, or adjust the graymail threshold to 10 or 15. I'm already monitoring graymail with just about the same frequency as the inbox, which is the way of the world these days. Or is there a way to get word to the DCC people that their filters are adjusted wrong?
Linda and Ralph and John
by virtualmike » Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:50 pm
Since the message went through Yahoo groups, it went to multiple people. Could that be causing DCC to believe it's spam?
by lr » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:56 am
The group has about 20 members. If DCC is sensitive enough that sending e-mail to 20 people is considered spam (in particular on a closed group), then DCC is broken.
Linda and Ralph and John
by virtualmike » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:38 pm
Or the message went to a lot more people (not necessarily in the same mailing in which you received it).
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