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New customer rant (tl;dr pls stop charging me for a phone line)

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:14 am
by jmsgyrsn
I decided to go with Sonic for my new apartment last week, largely out of a strong desire to finally ditch Comcast and hopefully get more reliable connection (no throttling or whatever they do during peak hours). I just got the Fusion FTTN service hooked up yesterday, and so far the connection is great. Yay.

But there were a few annoyances along the way.

Using the web interface to find what service was available at my apartment, I was only shown the $60/mo 50mbps FTTN service. That was not competitive enough with Comcast, even considering their usual nonsense. Upon calling Sonic, I was told there is also a 20 mbps $40/mo service. That is plenty for me, and I'm sure for many people, and I went with this option. Why doesn't Sonic advertise their full selection online?

I learned that I must rent an ATT modem for $6.50/mo. Maybe that is part of doing business with ATT for this FTTN service. I was told by the Sonic rep that you can't buy these commercially (as with a Comcast-compatible cable modem); true? Well, OK fine, I can live with this. It works well.

The final kicker is my real complaint. I am also required to rent a Sonic ATA phone adapter for $6.50/mo, plus around $2.30 in taxes related to having a voice line. As I told the initial Sonic rep when I signed up, and again today, I DO NOT need or want a phone connection, and will not use this service. I received the adapter from Sonic yesterday. It is unopened. The box will remain unopened, and cost me hundreds of dollars over the next several years if I continue with the Sonic service. After trying to blow smoke at me about the importance of having a 911 line, the Sonic reps tell me they are powerless to remove the 'bundle' package.

I can only think of a couple reasons Sonic does this. Either they are unashamed about extoring almost $9/mo from me, or their profit margin on the advertised $40/mo for internet is not sufficient so they must include mandatory extras like this. In either case, it is unpleasantly reminiscent of my experience with Comcast over the last decade.

Am I happy with the Sonic internet connection so far? Yes. Do I believe they are really the people's ISP? Not based on my experience so far. I unfortunately remain ready to jump ship if a more transparent ISP comes around.

I can only hope they will soon remove this ridiculous bundle requirement (it's equivalent to Comcast forcing basic cable TV on me, and even they are above that). Until then, I will have to periodically call Sonic to check if things have changed, to ensure I don't continue to get ripped off if the bundle requirement is removed. Even with Comcast, I only had to endure calling them once a year to keep the 1st year discounted rate.

To be clear, I am not claiming a bait and switch. I knew the costs going in. I am questioning the rationale to force the voice line. I'll happily send the adapter box back unopened, just give me an address.

Re: New customer rant (tl;dr pls stop charging me for a phone line)

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:01 pm
by dherr
Yup, sort of been there, and sort of done that...

The difference for me is that I switched from Sonic "Fusion" to "FTTN Fusion" and I did so before they decided to hide the X1 FTTN offering to some areas. My price remained nearly identical with what I had using Fusion since that included a POTS line with lots and lots of tax burden. I now get just a bit more product in (addition to the speed increase) since Sonic/AT&T owns the gateway and VOIP ATA (I do use my own router in DMZ+ mode in addition to the above). The extra product being the full service of all wires and boxes proving the FTTN & VOIP service.

I had read months and months worth of forum posts and I was still surprised that the ATA fee was in addition to the gateway fee. I was able to calm down only because the overall price was about the same as before. You don't get that luxury.

But I *have* read that basically Sonic can not make money on the FTTN offerings without the two equipment fees. I am very happy to get 22Mbit/2Mbit without the AT&T bull feathers so I am a very happy customer. I also hate to see half truths pushed in my face. I understand why it is hard to avoid that for Sonic if they want to compete in this market, but I get to put my two cents in via their own forums so, again, I should not complain.