FTTN performance after a month

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by wa2ibm » Mon May 25, 2015 5:02 pm
My FTTN (1x) service was installed on April 24th. The install went well. It took three AT&T techs and several hours to get the external cabling straightened out(*), but it was done. Here's the result:

http://netgauge.ookla.com/share/202697756.png

Even though I only ordered one pair (to get 18/2), they installed two pair, due to the distance from the VRAD they said, to ensure I got the speed that Sonic ordered for me. Here are the DSL stats from the NVG589 gateway:

  Line 1 Line 2
Line State Up Up
Downstream Sync Rate (kbps) 12607 12607
Upstream Sync Rate (kbps) 1022 1022
Downstream Max Attainable Rate (kbps) 51712 47676
Upstream Max Attainable Rate (kbps) 11544 10619
Modulation VDSL2 VDSL2
Data Path Interleaved Interleaved
  Downstream Upstream Downstream Upstream
SN Margin (dB) 28.7 32.0 26.8 30.2
Line Attenuation (dB) 35.9 26.4 36.0 26.0
Output Power(dBm) 14.0 8.2 14.0 8.2
Errored Seconds 0 0 0 0
Loss of Signal 0 0 0 0
Loss of Frame 0 0 0 0
FEC Errors 13318 19 41 0
CRC Errors 0 0 0 0

Aggregated Information
Bonded Downstream Rate 25214
Bonded Upstream Rate 2044

From the "Maximum attainable rate" figures, it looks like they could have obtained the 25/2 rate with a single pair, and could easily provide the 48/5 rate by simply re-provisioning my lines.

Is it fair presumption that I could call Sonic, pay an extra $20, and get the faster service without much of a issue?

I'm using IP-passthru on the NVG589 to feed my existing router. It seems to be working well.

* The 200-pair neighborhood cable running underground through a close-by hand-hole vault was completely flooded and saturated. They were unable to find two good pair for my new service. It took two cable linemen several hours to dry it out, find good pairs (they had to go to another street near the VRAD as well), and get me running. They remained several more hours removing the old "sealed container" gadget (that was obviously no longer sealed) and re-sealing the 200 pair cable. I don't envy their job.
by rtrinh » Mon May 25, 2015 5:43 pm
I don't see how you were really that "far" based on those stats and I would bet it would be possible to get x2 pretty easily.

In my case my two pairs are 4450 and 4475 feet away from the VRAD which is pretty much the maximum distance to get the 25/2.
Stats are with a 19 day 17 hour uptime:

Line 1 Line 2
Line State Up Up
Downstream Sync Rate (kbps) 12999 12208
Upstream Sync Rate (kbps) 1031 1000
Downstream Max Attainable Rate (kbps) 26032 23508
Upstream Max Attainable Rate (kbps) 1285 1211
Modulation VDSL2 VDSL2
Data Path Interleaved Interleaved
Downstream Upstream Downstream Upstream
SN Margin (dB) 19.7 7.4 18.2 7.3
Line Attenuation (dB) 56.7 43.7 57.5 44.1
Output Power(dBm) 14.4 3.0 14.3 2.4
Errored Seconds 8 0 2 0
Loss of Signal 0 0 0 0
Loss of Frame 0 0 0 0
FEC Errors 99151 136 44746 112
CRC Errors 11 0 2 0
by Guest » Mon May 25, 2015 7:34 pm
Your attenuation shows you're quite far away.

I'm 1500 feet from the VRAD and my attenutation is 17.9 dB. wa2ibm's margin is a lot better than mine (21.6 dB). Did the techs tell you how far away you were?

You already have bonded service so I don't think you can get any faster service. The techs would need to determine whether if there are bridge taps on your line and remove them if they haven't already.
by rtrinh » Tue May 26, 2015 2:37 pm
Guest wrote:Your attenuation shows you're quite far away.

I'm 1500 feet from the VRAD and my attenutation is 17.9 dB. wa2ibm's margin is a lot better than mine (21.6 dB). Did the techs tell you how far away you were?

You already have bonded service so I don't think you can get any faster service. The techs would need to determine whether if there are bridge taps on your line and remove them if they haven't already.
No I know I can't get anything faster. I'm just comparing my stats to wa2ibm's where he said his techs says he is "far" when I'm the definition of "far" with 4450 and 4475 feet pairs as stated in my post too. I'm just glad I can get the full 25/2.
by Guest » Tue May 26, 2015 4:24 pm
rtrinh wrote:
Guest wrote:Your attenuation shows you're quite far away.

I'm 1500 feet from the VRAD and my attenutation is 17.9 dB. wa2ibm's margin is a lot better than mine (21.6 dB). Did the techs tell you how far away you were?

You already have bonded service so I don't think you can get any faster service. The techs would need to determine whether if there are bridge taps on your line and remove them if they haven't already.
No I know I can't get anything faster. I'm just comparing my stats to wa2ibm's where he said his techs says he is "far" when I'm the definition of "far" with 4450 and 4475 feet pairs as stated in my post too. I'm just glad I can get the full 25/2.
Sorry rtrinh, I was referring to wa2ibm's post for the most part and didn't word things well.

It's interesting how from the VDSL2 thread the output power is roughly the same. The differentiating factors are attenuation which indicates how far your premise is from the VRAD/CO and margin, based on how much your transmissions are capped on FTTN.
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