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[Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:23 pm
by laikitso
Recently Sonic has deployed 10 Gigabits service to my neighborhood. Sadly there isn't an available list of equipment, which can fully use this service. It has been difficult to find equipment that is
low cost, power efficient and readily available. Hopefully we can start a thread where we can compile a list of devices that can support such speeds.
Google Sheet: Equipment for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
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Submission Instructions
Before entering your submissions, make sure to test on a wired connection and use a Speedtest client that is either:
Also use either one of the following Speedtest servers.
- • Sonic.net, Inc. - San Jose, CA (id = 17846)
• Frontier - Palo Alto, CA (id = 14204)
• Next Level Networks - Santa Clara, CA (id = 25606)
Other clients and servers will not reach 10 Gigabits. This internet service is faster than most Speedtest servers today.
Examples
Code: Select all
docker run --rm gists/speedtest-cli speedtest --accept-license -s 14204
Speedtest by Ookla
Server: Frontier - Palo Alto, CA (id = 14204)
ISP: Sonic.net, LLC
Latency: 2.96 ms (0.43 ms jitter)
Download: 8073.50 Mbps (data used: 6.0 GB )
Upload: 7357.50 Mbps (data used: 6.7 GB )
Packet Loss: 0.0%
Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/163ef566-ded5-4714-ab4f-34d95e10f8e1
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Expectations
dane wrote:
Regarding the 10Gbps service, yes, to see the full speed you will need a fast computer on a wired 10Gbps Ethernet adaptor. For many modern systems that have a USC-C jack, you can obtain a 10G Ethernet dongle for around $300 on Amazon. Using this sort of setup, we see speed tests using the desktop Speedtest application yielding about 8,600Mbps - this is typical expected payload throughput after overheads of IP, error correction etc.
According to
dane, it looks like the maximum throughput for the 10 Gigabit service in reality is around 8,600 Mbps.
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:23 pm
by laikitso
When I was researching last week, I've started to compiled a list of routers that have 10Gbps ports.
Released
- • Asus RT-AX89X $343.42
• Engenius ECS5512FE $500
• Gowin R86S $270
• Netgear Orbi RBKE960 Series $1,499.99
• MikroTik CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS $521.59
• NETGATE 6100 BASE PFSENSE+ SECURITY GATEWAY $799.00
• QNAP QHora-301W $329.00
• TP-Link AXE16000 $599.94
• TP-Link ER8411 Omada VPN Router with 10G Ports $349.99
• TP-Link Archer BE900 -- BE24000 Quad-band Wi-Fi 7 router $699.99
• TP-Link Deco BE85--BE22000 Tri-band Mesh Wi-Fi 7 System $1,499.99 (3 pack)
• TP-Link Deco BE95 -- BE33000 Quad-band Mesh Wi-Fi 7 System $1199.99 (2 pack)
• Ubiquiti Dream Machine Pro $379
• Ubiquiti Dream Machine Special Edition $499
• Zyxel Armor G5 $299.99
Unreleased
- • EnGenius ESG520
• EnGenius ESG620
I've settled on QNAP QHora-301W since it had two 10GbE ports.
Update
2023-07-20: I replaced the QNAP QHora-301W with the TP-Link ER8411 around December 2022 as it was unstable. The router would lose the connection weekly.
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:30 pm
by daniel15
laikitso wrote:
- • TP-Link ER8411 Omada VPN Router with 10G Ports $349.99
I've got this one preordered - I'll post an update in this forum once it's arrived and I've tested it
• Ubiquiti Dream Machine Pro $379
UDM Pro can only reach ~7.5 to 8 Gbps throughput. TP-Link ER8411 has a more powerful processor that can reach full 10Gbps throughput.
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:49 am
by cadoretti
Someone else posted this in another thread already, missing from this list is the "EnGenius ESG620". I don't think it is available for sale just yet, but the summary is this
EnGenius ESG620: This equipment has Quad-Core processor at 2.2GHz speed and incorporates a total of 6 2.5G Multigigabit ports and a total of 2 SFP+ ports at 10Gbps.
laikitso wrote:When I was researching last week, I've started to compiled a list of routers that have 10Gbps ports.
- • Asus RT-AX89X $343.42
• Netgear Orbi RBKE960 Series $1,499.99
• MikroTik CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS $521.59
• NETGATE 6100 BASE PFSENSE+ SECURITY GATEWAY $799.00
• QNAP QHora-301W $329.00
• TP-Link ER8411 Omada VPN Router with 10G Ports $349.99
• TP-Link AXE16000 $599.94
• Ubiquiti Dream Machine Pro $379
• Ubiquiti Dream Machine Special Edition $499
• Zyxel Armor G5 $299.99
I've settled on QNAP QHora-301W since it had two 10GbE ports.
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:35 pm
by tarzxf
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:10 pm
by laikitso
daniel15 wrote:
I've got this one preordered - I'll post an update in this forum once it's arrived and I've tested it
throughput.
Looking forward to it. It looks like most people reached at limit of 8Gbps down. Hopefully the missing throughput is due to the router and not signal loss in Sonic fiber lines.
I've also updated the list of routers include the missing ones.
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:24 am
by cadoretti
laikitso wrote:daniel15 wrote:
I've got this one preordered - I'll post an update in this forum once it's arrived and I've tested it
throughput.
Looking forward to it. It looks like most people reached at limit of 8Gbps down. Hopefully the missing throughput is due to the router and not signal loss in Sonic fiber lines.
I've also updated the list of routers include the missing ones.
Theres been multiple people pulling very close to 10 gbps from the ONT directly so should be safe there.
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:46 pm
by artakamoose
daniel15 wrote:laikitso wrote:
- • TP-Link ER8411 Omada VPN Router with 10G Ports $349.99
I've got this one preordered - I'll post an update in this forum once it's arrived and I've tested it
• Ubiquiti Dream Machine Pro $379
UDM Pro can only reach ~7.5 to 8 Gbps throughput. TP-Link ER8411 has a more powerful processor that can reach full 10Gbps throughput.
The UDM Pro can do better than that. Heavy bandwidth limitations only appear to happen when IDS+IPS is turned on. See the following link for a user who tracked WAN throughput on 10G with tests across multiple firmware updates. Initial testing was with DPI only and DPI+IDS. There's also a set of tests with DPI turned off down lower in the thread.
https://community.ui.com/questions/WAN- ... 824861386e
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:10 pm
by laikitso
cadoretti wrote:
Theres been multiple people pulling very close to 10 gbps from the ONT directly so should be safe there.
Can you link the posts? Most of the forum posts I have found reach a maximum of around 8100 Mbps.
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:17 pm
by cadoretti
laikitso wrote:cadoretti wrote:
Theres been multiple people pulling very close to 10 gbps from the ONT directly so should be safe there.
Can you link the posts? Most of the forum posts I have found reach a maximum of around 8100 Mbps.
No but they’re out there don’t worry. Just run the test off the ont when you get access