New sonic.net webmail application

[thulsa_doom]

In the folder view pane on the left, is there a way to display the number of messages in each folder (or even just an indication whether the folder is empty)?

The number displayed in the folder list is for unread messages. While viewing a folder, the total number is displayed beneath the message listing (above the preview pane).

[kgc]

In the folder view pane on the left, is there a way to display the number of messages in each folder (or even
just an indication whether the folder is empty)?

Jon, sorry, at this time it will only display the number of unread messages in the folder and not its total. You actually need to open the folder to get the count of messages in it.

[aman]

@ thulsa_doom (John Fitzgerald)

aman wrote: "(9) Can some Sonic.net techie or other helpful soul explain to us lo-tech "regulars" in *non-geeky* language step-by-step how to access the "mail-spool" (or whatever it's called) to delete all the unwanted new messages, preferably in a "toggle-all" one-step and one-click method à la SquirrelMail?"

John wrote: In the new webmail interface, with your inbox open, click the button labeled "Select" at the bottom of the message listing.
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Oh, John. I'm sorry you wasted so much of your valuable time trying to help by answering questions I didn't ask.

I asked how to access the "mail-spool" by which I mean that place (disk?) kept at Sonic.net HQ where all messages/mails are stored until they are downloaded by the users. If SquirrelMail is killed, *that's* the place I need to go to delete all the junk waiting for me, so that my Netscape Inbox won't be filled every day with 40-60 spams and other trash.

As I stated from the beginning of this thread, I *can not* and will not use your new Wundermail (or shall we call it "Titanic-Mail"?). Many other customers and I want and need the text-only *SquirrelMail*, with which we can easily see and delete all unwanted messages. No goofy control-clicking this and shift-clicking that, no pulling down menus, no clicking on arrows and buttons located all over the place. Just clicking "Toggle All" and "Delete" and Bingo!, all the garbage is gone.

I'm asking for the nth and last time this question, which you personally can't answer, only your two bosses, polite Dane and cool Scott:

Why, oh, why, can't Sonic.net offer these two webmail interfaces:
(1) the simple, fantastic *SquirrelMail* and
(2) that goofy, flawed, buggy, bloated *Wundermail*?

Is keeping SquirrelMail such a big hassle for you? Does it cost you lots of money to maintain? Does it take much wo/man power to keep it going?

*Please* keep SquirrelMail alive. Thank you.

Reinhold {Rey} Aman
(whose last name keeps getting mangled by this Forum)..

[Guest]

At first glance it seems butt ugly but perhaps I'm not used to it.

There doesn't seem to be anyway to get a name from the address book into the Cc: or Bcc: fields. It always goes into To:, though I guess I can cut and paste.

[virtualmike]

I asked how to access the "mail-spool" by which I mean that place (disk?) kept at Sonic.net HQ where all messages/mails are stored until they are downloaded by the users.

SquirrelMail and webmail beta both show the same information: the queue of messages waiting on the Sonic.net server.

The appearance differs, and manipulating the messages will be accomplished with different clicks and keystrokes, but it's the same information and you can accomplish the same things with either interface.

With the new mail, you can delete individual messages or groups of messages, just like you do with SquirrelMail.

[jbk4]

Unusable on my iPad since I can't adjust the view to the screen; scrollbars are cut off.

Can I ask why you aren't using the native mail client on the iPad? It's easy to setup and provides you with a unified inbox that can be shared between our webmail, the ipad, and any other IMAP capable device. ...
That said, we are aware that the mobile version of safari has some issues and it is on the list of things to fix.

I was quite frustrated with my first attempt to use the beta version on an iPod Touch; I couldn't see most of the message and couldn't scroll within the preview pane. I'm glad you're going to work on that and I look forward to trying it once improved.

I don't use the Touch native mail client for the Sonic mail account because I use it for my Yahoo email account. Your comment doesn't mean that the native client can accept mail from two different sources...or does it? I suppose what I could do is install a Yahoo Mail app (as I have with the Gmail app for that account) and configure the native client to the Sonic email. Hm.

Not meaning to be rude, given that it would sidestep the effort to make Sonic's webmail better, but Is it also possible to have Sonic email forwarded to Outlook.com or other online email service?
Thanks,
John

[aman]

@ virtualmike:

aman wrote: "I asked how to access the "mail-spool" by which I mean that place (disk?) kept at Sonic.net HQ where all messages/mails are stored until they are downloaded by the users."

SquirrelMail and webmail beta both show the same information: the queue of messages waiting on the Sonic.net server.
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Yes, thanks, but Sonic.net wants to kill SquirrelMail, and I *can't* use "webmail beta." How can I access the Sonic.net Mail Server to delete all the spam *without* SquirrelMail?

Reinhold {Rey} Aman

[Ben]

Does that mean you are deleting *squirrelmail* too?

Yes. We intend to reduce our current offering of five webmail interfaces (six if you count the newly-announced one) to one.

Could you please explain why you're eliminating the older webmail interfaces that some of us know and have grown to love? Are they insecure and not easy to make secure? Do they require a significant amount of maintenance/support? Any good reason they couldn't just be moved off of the webmail page and onto their own legacy webmail page? (with a link in tiny print at the bottom of the webmail page?) I really don't understand the one-size-fits-some philosophy Sonic seems to have embraced lately. I can understand wanting to limit the number of choices to a reasonable level but why eliminate choice altogether? Why alienate your loyal customers?

[Guest]

I asked how to access the "mail-spool" by which I mean that place (disk?) kept at Sonic.net HQ where all messages/mails are stored until they are downloaded by the users.

You use either the IMAP or POP protocol to access it. You cannot access it directly.

https://wiki.sonic.net/wiki/Windows_Mail_POP3
https://wiki.sonic.net/wiki/Thunderbird ... Windows%29
https://wiki.sonic.net/wiki/IMAP_FAQ

You should understand the difference between the POP and IMAP protocols. Refer to the IMAP FAQ. In essence, IMAP understands folders while POP does not. With Thunderbird, you should be able to tell it to exclude folders so you don't have to continue with the kludge where you're emptying your spam/graymail folders before you download your messages. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... &t=2056967

[virtualmike]

I don't use the Touch native mail client for the Sonic mail account because I use it for my Yahoo email account. Your comment doesn't mean that the native client can accept mail from two different sources...or does it?

On my iPad, using the native Mail app, I have two GMail mailboxes, my Sonic.net mailbox, three mailboxes from my personal domain, and my work mailbox. I can choose to use the "combined inbox," that shows all mail from all sources, or just focus on an individual mailbox.

... Is it also possible to have Sonic email forwarded to Outlook.com or other online email service?

You can forward it to any mailbox. Mail to my Sonic.net address lands in my Sonic.net mailbox, AND it is forwarded to a Gmail account that I access from my Android phone.