Question about upcoming Bonding and Uverse Plans

[polpo]

I got the 45Mbps service, the fastest available in my area (Cupertino). It's 2 bonded lines, though according to my modem stats one pair could handle it (max attainable rate on one line is 70260kbps and 60308kbps on the other). Not sure why they don't offer 75Mbps because the lines could certainly do it.

[oddhack]

Another benefit for me is Sonic will provide phone service of some sort without us having to subscribe to an ILEC and you're not bound to a year contract.

Unless something has changed since I asked about this on the forums in December, the resold U-Verse will have a twelve month contract. See
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2509&p=15756&hilit=contract#p15752 :

Nope, afraid not. Twelve month term, but there is a 30 day satisfaction guarantee, during which the contract isn't in force.

[Guest]

I got the 45Mbps service, the fastest available in my area (Cupertino). It's 2 bonded lines, though according to my modem stats one pair could handle it (max attainable rate on one line is 70260kbps and 60308kbps on the other). Not sure why they don't offer 75Mbps because the lines could certainly do it.

So basically even for U-Verse, it's subject to the same limitations of speed per pair as Fusion which is 20Mbps, I think each pair can handle 24bps max. Maybe the 75Mbps has other requirements we don't know about.

[Guest]

I got the 45Mbps service, the fastest available in my area (Cupertino). It's 2 bonded lines, though according to my modem stats one pair could handle it (max attainable rate on one line is 70260kbps and 60308kbps on the other). Not sure why they don't offer 75Mbps because the lines could certainly do it.

So basically even for U-Verse, it's subject to the same limitations of speed per pair as Fusion which is 20Mbps, I think each pair can handle 24bps max. Maybe the 75Mbps has other requirements we don't know about.

According to this which is dated December 18, 2014:
http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/att- ... 2014-12-18

"AT&T (NYSE: T) may have created a lot of buzz with its 1 Gbps deployments in Austin, Texas, and Charlotte, N.C., but the launch of its 75 Mbps U-verse tier illustrates that it's just as motivated to expand its existing fiber-to-the-node (FTTN) service base.

The service provider will offer the High Speed Internet 75/8 Mbps service option in four markets: parts of Monterey and Sacramento, Calif.; Toledo, Ohio; and El Paso, Texas."

[Guest]

To make this new speed option available, AT&T said that it upgraded its existing copper network by incorporating a new 17 MHz signal, twice the 8.5 MHz that was previously available.

"This upgrade takes us from 8.5 MHz to 17 MHz and we're doing that that through the 17a profile on new and existing VDSL2 line cards," said Bob Bickerstaff, Vice President of Voice & Data Products for AT&T, in an interview with FierceTelecom. "We have about 100,000 VRADs out there, which is how we access the local network, and we're enabling it so that all those areas are capable of 17 MHz."

Bickerstaff added that the benefits of going 17 MHz include the ability to achieve higher speeds and reach, which is also available on its current generation of customer premises equipment (CPE).

"There are a number of benefits, including higher speed," Bickerstaff said. "It's not just highest speeds, but it will also help us in some cases use pair bonding and improve our ability to use single pair more frequently than we would have otherwise."

Similar to the rollout of its 45 Mbps tier, AT&T said that it expects to expand the availability not only in these four markets, but also across the 21 states where it currently provides U-verse today.

"Our intent is to go national with all 21 states in our complete VDSL footprint," Bickerstaff said. "Once we get it into the marketplace and make sure it's everything we need it to be then we'll then expand it."

The introduction of the 75 Mbps tier is part of AT&T's multibillion Project VIP effort that was launched in the fall of 2012 for its existing copper-based broadband U-verse network.

Like other traditional telcos, AT&T is also looking at other emerging technologies to advance the copper part of its network, including vectoring and G.fast.

"As we think about where this goes next, we're studying vectoring," Bickerstaff said. "It's an intriguing technology for us as a way to get the next round of speeds out to customers on copper and we're also studying technologies like G.fast."

With the addition of the 75 Mbps offering, AT&T will now have a speed portfolio that will range from as low as 3 Mbps and up to 100 Mbps and 1 Gbps in select markets where the GigaPower service is available.

[Guest]

Unless something has changed since I asked about this on the forums in December, the resold U-Verse will have a twelve month contract.

Oh, you're correct. Thanks for the correction.

[virtualmike]

So basically they still call it sbcglobal.net in some parts but it's connected to AT&T WorldNet ip.att.net for pretty much connectivity to the outside world.

sbcglobal.net was the brand name under which SBC (Soutwestern Bell Corporation) provided dial-up and broadband service to consumers and small businesses in much of the country, until it bought AT&T in 2005. AT&T has long offered broadband to large companies and other telcos, and continues to do the same even after SBC's purchase.

[Guest]

So basically they still call it sbcglobal.net in some parts but it's connected to AT&T WorldNet ip.att.net for pretty much connectivity to the outside world.

sbcglobal.net was the brand name under which SBC (Soutwestern Bell Corporation) provided dial-up and broadband service to consumers and small businesses in much of the country, until it bought AT&T in 2005. AT&T has long offered broadband to large companies and other telcos, and continues to do the same even after SBC's purchase.

What I meant was PBI.NET started with using AGIS (APEX Global Internet Services) even in 1996 as they were not allowed to transport Long Distance traffic between LATA's.

Then SBC buys Pacific Bell and they began using AT&T Global Network Services which was IBM GNS before.

Because SBC and AT&T are major competitors, they switched to SprintLink which was heavily congested in Stockton, CA.

Then later sbcglobal.net was basically SBC's own internet backbone in the U.S. Do they even still use that or did they just merge that into AT&T WorldNet aka ip.att.net?

AT&T did not get into the internet business until 1994 when BBNPlanet later known as GTE Internetworking was the one who helped them build their backbone known as AT&T WorldNet which uses BBNPlanet.net for internet transit and InternetMCI for destinations that BBNPlanet did not peer directly with. AT&T was actually a late player in the Internet business as the big three were SprintLink, InternetMCI (later Cable & Wireless USA that Savvis bought which became CenturyLink) and UUNet which became WorldCom/MCI WorldCom and then Verizon. AT&T just like level 3 has been one of those cheap broadband carriers since the serious people would have paid for AT&T GNS (prserv.net) or AT&T ENS which is way more expensive.

[Guest]

https://books.google.com/books?id=ZhsEA ... et&f=false

For more information on AT&T and how it got into the Internet Business. Even their AT&T Broadband Inc (AT&T BI) which is now part of Comcast that they was Telecommunications, Inc (TCI) was using @Home which later became Excite@Home for Internet access...

[Mike]

I got the 45Mbps service, the fastest available in my area (Cupertino). It's 2 bonded lines, though according to my modem stats one pair could handle it (max attainable rate on one line is 70260kbps and 60308kbps on the other). Not sure why they don't offer 75Mbps because the lines could certainly do it.

So basically even for U-Verse, it's subject to the same limitations of speed per pair as Fusion which is 20Mbps, I think each pair can handle 24bps max. Maybe the 75Mbps has other requirements we don't know about.

IIRC, U-verse uses ADSL2+ technology which is where the limit comes from, however switching over to VDSL2 technology this limit increases.

AT&T has a track record of not upgrading stuff until absolutely necessary, and then breaking that into multiple tiers of being able to charge you more.