Fusion price increase and fiber expansion

Internet access discussion, including Fusion, IP Broadband, and Gigabit Fiber!
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by pockyken007 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:20 pm
FTTN_user wrote:
pockyken007 wrote:Well since I already have my fiber why should I finance some schmuck who doesn't have it " and protest the price increase ...
If I'm having a seven-course feast for the price of an egg sandwich, I wouldn't complain either.

Perspectives can change quickly if rates are commensurate with speeds.

I would be happy to pay of upwards of 100$ for the Fiber service if that was the price you still simply can't beat the price / speed ,
by pockyken007 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:27 pm
Sonic user wrote:Ken, I have a couple questions for you.

1. If the shoe was on the other foot, and your place has <10Mbps with no speed increases in the foreseeable future,what would you do? Vent/complain/switch to another ISP?

2. Why do you feel the need to defend Sonic at every turn?

1) The shoe was on the other foot for some time as a matter of fact not till recently I was on 1.5 ( upwards of 2 mbps ) DSL connection .... it's not till I moved to the Avenues where A) FTTN become available and I had that for a while ( Almost 100$ for 50 MBPS - I had FTTN x2 ) and then fiber rolled out ( now mind you I moved to the avenues before the fiber roll out was even announced with no prior or advanced knowledge that it will - luck I guess ).

2) Defend hardly , more like A) point out that a lot of the attacks on SONIC are due to the fact that people either don't read bills , contracts etc. or B) Propose a better way to increase capital gains for sonic ( see my post above about SPEED VS PRICE ) and how to get it done ( TLDR if you are below speed X you pay your old fee if you are above speed X your price goes up by 10$ that way the only people affected by the price increase would be those who have relatively high speeds where X is some arbitrary number above 25 mbps or more )

Anything else you would like me to elaborate for you ?
by pockyken007 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:42 pm
customerInExcelsior wrote:
Sonic user wrote:Ken, I have a couple questions for you.

1. If the shoe was on the other foot, and your place has <10Mbps with no speed increases in the foreseeable future,what would you do? Vent/complain/switch to another ISP?

2. Why do you feel the need to defend Sonic at every turn?
It would be hard to get an honest response for #1, but I would hazard a guess that pockyken007 would be singing a different tune, especially after all of his efforts to support Sonic. If he weren't so lucky to live in an area where Sonic Fiber was available - now or ever - would his "altruism" survive what many see as a betrayal on the part of Sonic? I doubt it, but I'm sure he'll address this in a subsequent response.

As for #2, I can find a very simple and self-serving reason - he's trying to ensure that Sonic Fiber stays viable so that he can continue using it. I call BS on all of his talk of altruism because of his combative words. I would say that he's doing a poor job of arguing his case however, as he feigns empathy for his fellow man while putting him down left and right, just like so many liberals I know who speak past Trump supporters instead of trying to find some common ground with them. (For the record, I do not support Trump, nor am I conservative-leaning, but I will not treat the vast majority of his supporters as un-American or less than human!)

I've given up trying to counter his arguments because he continues to repeat himself (as is his right) to others who are well within their right to express their disdain, and quite frankly it benefits me in no way to waste my time doing so. Honestly, I very much doubt that pockyken007 cares about you, so why continue to engage him and feed the troll? In any case, I've finally left Sonic, so I won't continue to read these forums (or his juvenile messages) any longer. pockyken007, feel free to wish me good riddance! I wish upon you many more years of reliable service - and for others, many more options for better Internet connectivity in the future!


1) as a matter of fact you are very wrong in your assumption , I have been working very closely with city hall , our supervisors here in the richmond / sunset area as well as CPUC ( where I used to work some time ago ) in order to speed up the process to allow micro trenching k, bring fast internet to the city residents and not only businesses in downtown etc ) .Also it wasn't til recently that I moved to my new house and qualified first for FTTN 50 MBPS for 100$ and now the fiber connection , before that I was rocking 1.5-2 mbps DSL connection ( that's part of the reason I got involved in city politics among many other factors ). Speaking of which CASTRO and Mission districts should be seeing some upgrades to their infrastructure and faster internet speeds very very soon ;)

2) You are wrong again in your assumption , while the fiber service is great and the price cost per mb is amazing . I support sonic because I like the company , their ideals ( even with the whole raise the price flop ) and what they strive to achieve line up with mine , the fact that they are not greedy , have excellent customer service ( new people might need some more training and exposure to company culture ) , super friendly and knowledgeable techs ,a CEO that actually cares and is active on the forums speaks volumes , not to mention pretty much spotless record of being very transparent with the end users ... I for one can appreciate that and that's why I support them ( as small underdogs they are expanding while preserving the core values - or at least trying to as much as they can ) .
by kenwas » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:24 pm
25% increase seems a little high especially for areas where there is no plan for a fiber connection option. you should rethink this increase with thought to those of us who do not have any chance of receiving the service that is being added. Further research should have been conducted, not just a blanket increase.
by smalyshev » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:07 pm
Wait, so you've advertised to me $40/month (which btw is still on the homepage, and says "up to Gigabit internet", which is nowhere close to what I'm getting, not even on the same planet), I'm actually paying $55/month, and on top of that you're also raising the prices? Looks like signing up with your service was a huge mistake.
by pockyken007 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:37 pm
smalyshev wrote:Wait, so you've advertised to me $40/month (which btw is still on the homepage, and says "up to Gigabit internet", which is nowhere close to what I'm getting, not even on the same planet), I'm actually paying $55/month, and on top of that you're also raising the prices? Looks like signing up with your service was a huge mistake.

What service do you have with Sonic ? DSL ? FTTN ? FTTH ? VDSL ? Depending on the service you have your speed will wary, when you sign up or when you check your address in the availability tool sonic will tell you what services / speed is available in your region so not sure why you complain about that if you selected service from SONIC you KNEW full well what speed / price point you going to get on your bill . ... the 55$/month is with taxes and fees which are clearly announced on sonic website ....I suggest looking at the sonic website again this time paying more attention and you'll see all the things I just mentioned ... :roll: :roll: :roll:
by Dave1 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:58 am
I don't think your condescending and patronizing tone is winning over many, pockyken007.
by pockyken007 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:10 am
Dave1 wrote:I don't think your condescending and patronizing tone is winning over many, pockyken007.
So telling people where to find the info they whine about is condescending now :roll: :roll: :roll:
by lawrence42 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:38 am
I fully agree with those who have posited than any increase in rates should be applied to those who will benefit most and soonest, and who need/demand superior levels of access and service. They should not apply to those who require (or can only afford) the minimum levels of access and service, such as seniors on very limited and fixed incomes like myself, or should be prorated so that customers at the bottom levels of service pay only a minimal increase, rather than the 25% hike I'm facing. It's a matter of "what do I get for what I'm paying?" and "why should I pay more and not get any added benefit?" For customers like myself, Sonic no longer offers a competitive advantage, and the sudden increase (which also could have been phased in at maybe 3% per year over several years) is likely to cause the loss of customers -- not to mention the bad PR that will probably result from some of us who will now advise our friends that Sonic no longer is an attractive option.
by [email protected] » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:08 pm
Regardless of whether the reason for these slow speeds is my Alameda location or that I'm in an old apartment building, I'm fast approaching the point where I have to go with Comcast, which I hate. It's ridiculous to pay this amount for this service. And I've been with Sonic for around 20 years!
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