Question about upcoming Bonding and Uverse Plans

[virtualmike]

Damn. That's cool. Thanks!

(Not that I was expecting you, Dane, to do that... I really thought that's DPW's responsibility. )

[dane]

Damn. That's cool. Thanks!

(Not that I was expecting you, Dane, to do that... I really thought that's DPW's responsibility. )

I doubt they know where the ILEC COs are, honestly. That's our wheelhouse, rather than their responsibility.

[dayyan]

Maybe this will help:

SNFCCA01 555 Pine St, 2nd Floor, San Francisco, CA 94108
SNFCCA04 1 McCoppin St, 3rd Floor, San Francisco, CA 94103
SNFCCA05 3333 25th St, 7th Floor, San Francisco, CA 94110
SNFCCA06 30 Onondaga St, 2nd Floor, San Francisco, CA 94112
SNFCCA12 2345 Pine St, 1st Floor, San Francisco, CA 94115
SNFCCA13 389 9th Ave, 1st Floor, San Francisco, CA 94118
SNFCCA14 1515 19th Ave, 2nd Floor, San Francisco, CA 94122
SNFCCA17 6150 3rd St, 2nd Floor, San Francisco, CA 94124
SNFCCA21 611 Folsom St, 1st Floor, San Francisco, CA 94107

Here that is as an image, with wire-center boundaries:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/37e6rt1djsan1 ... 0.png?dl=0

Couldn't find anything like this for Oakland.
Anyone know where I can get that info?

[Mike]

For San Francisco, check here: http://bsmnt.sfdpw.org/surfacemountedfacilities/

Thanks for this link, I see some definitely interesting info here, when combined with google map street view I can see 2 VRAD boxes 5 & 7 blocks away (short blocks too), those two are actually within 2 blocks of each other just on perpendicular streets. There's also a permit for one that's about a year and a half old about 2 blocks away but street view shows a picture of an older style (tall and skinny) box.. and it's funny because there's an AT&T tech parked outside working on it in the picture. I live near McClaren park too and that seems to be a dead area for putting anything down, but 2-5 blocks away sounds reasonable, heck the 5 block one is only 1600 feet away according to Gmap.

So my question is, has AT&T just decided not to light up San Francisco? I know they announced with the whole net neutrality bit that they were going to suspend fiber expansion until after the ruling. And I'll happily wait until Sonic gets whatever agreements in place (because I do not under any circumstances want AT&T) but if those VRAD boxes are not setup then Sonic can do whatever they want as a policy it still isn't going to ease my 5Mbps pain and suffering I currently have :)

[nyee]

from what I understand, there are two initiatives going on: VDSL2 from the central office, and something else via the VRADS. Will they be the same thing or different offerings (specifically bandwidth wise)?

I'm 4500 feet from the local CO (though the prequal tool, when i tried last night, oddly enough shows that I have no available service at my home even though I've had fusion for years), but there appears to be a VRAD box 300 ft "as the crow flies" or 400 feet if I follow along the street to my house. I assume I'll be able to get whatever is most beneficial to my location?

[guest]

When calculating distance from a VRAD, also consider the distance from the VRAD to the cross-connect box, which might be on another street, and also the length of cable needed to get overhead from the sidewalk, if that's how your service enters.

In almost all cases these added lengths should be negligible, but I imagine there are edge-cases where they add up to something significant in the overall calculation.

[Mike]

When calculating distance from a VRAD, also consider the distance from the VRAD to the cross-connect box, which might be on another street, and also the length of cable needed to get overhead from the sidewalk, if that's how your service enters.

In almost all cases these added lengths should be negligible, but I imagine there are edge-cases where they add up to something significant in the overall calculation.

Well I drove down the street and saw the shiny VRAD is right next to the older cross connect box, so that shouldn't be an issue. Unfortunately I don't think they've flipped them on yet, since checking the AT&T site should give me speeds faster than 6Mbps if it's only 2 blocks away.

[Dan]

Disappointing that San Jose does have a similar public list of 'surface mount facility' boxes.

I have about 10 days to tell Comcast I do not want an automatic one year renewal on my
business account, and about 40 days to get the replacement service installed. I had Sonic
at my last apartment and have signed up a couple small businesses I support, but my new house
was too far to be serviced when I bought it, or so it was reported...

Sadly I cannot tell if service is available. My house has not had a phone line installed in
years, no wires at all from the pole. So AT&T has potentially very outdated incorrect details
for a pre-qual. AT&T and DSLX would be happy to take my order and let me pay for a full
year even if said service is unusable.

I guess I might just be stuck with Comcast for another 12 months...

[dane]

The Comcast plan locks you in for another full year automatically? That's lame. Can you opt for month-to-month?

[Dan]

I need a static IP and the only way to get that is with their business class internet,
which has plenty of negatives, and a couple positives. The good is it has no caps
or port blocking. The bad is high price to bandwidth ratio, minimum 3 year contract
and automatic 1 year contract extensions on the anniversary of the original contract
expiration. The final groin kick is that the ETF is the balance on the contract.

I can ask if Comcast would consider a couple month extension, but I don't expect
a whole lot of cooperation...