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Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:04 am
by js9erfan
kennethporter wrote:
Does any of this hardware provide multi-WAN support? I've got a backup provider and would like to plug their modem into a port for those rare times the fiber is down for maintenance or a weather event. (In the last year, Xfinity was down when a car hit a pole, and ATT fiber was down when one of their distribution sites flooded.)
Right now I have a Raspberry Pi 4B running Debian that's acting as my router. The main gigabit Ethernet port goes to Sonic and a gigabit USB3-Ethernet adapter goes to the LAN. If the fiber is down, it re-routes to my cable modem on the LAN. (It also permanently routes some traffic to peers on Comcast that way.)
If you're referring to UniFi's gateways then yes as of unc v9.1 though it looks like configuration options are somewhat limited:
https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/3 ... i-Gateways
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:01 am
by drbubbles
drbubbles wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:33 am
Would be nice if the UDR7 could be adopted in AP only mode via it's 10Gbps rj45 with the UCG-fiber (or UXG-fibdr), although I expect that would be wishful thinking. Maybe they'll release a wifi7 ap with 10Gbps uplink and same number of streams as the udr7, i.e less streams than an E7 but still faster than 2.5Gbps.
The new U7-Pro-XG and XGS have 10Gbps uplink now. Less antennas than the E7, but >5Gbps throughput on both the 5GHz and 6GHz radios according to the spec. They don't (yet?) have the extended range capability that the E7 has (enabled by Automated Frequency Coordination (EFC) which allows the 6GHz radio to transmit more power provided a look up table of rules about the local environment is ok with that). The client devices still need to respond with enough power for a decent two way conversation though (just like with any AP) so it doesn't guarantee a good connection.
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 2:19 pm
by bobfff
Has anyone had any experience with the new Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Fiber router? Has one 10GbE (RJ45) wan port, two 10Gb SFP+ ports, and four 2.5GbE ports, one with POE+. $279 w/out storage but can add NVMe
https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all ... /ucg-fiber
Thanks!
Bob
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:17 pm
by crbowman
The Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Fiber looks interesting for Sonic use but they're sold out and it's not clear the IDS can run at full 10G speed. But if you're willing to take some throughput hit, or forgo IDS, they do look like interesting devices. What I dislike is that it's hard to tell which devices support complete local configuration and which ones force you to run a cloud instance or use their's neither of which I want to do. Anyone have speed test data for these devices on Sonic?
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:17 am
by js9erfan
crbowman wrote:
The Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Fiber looks interesting for Sonic use but they're sold out and it's not clear the IDS can run at full 10G speed. But if you're willing to take some throughput hit, or forgo IDS, they do look like interesting devices. What I dislike is that it's hard to tell which devices support complete local configuration and which ones force you to run a cloud instance or use their's neither of which I want to do. Anyone have speed test data for these devices on Sonic?
The ucg-fiber is capable of up to 5g with ids/ips enabled. And yes, you can manage it locally via their bundled network controller app which is what I do over vpn for the ubiquiti switches and ap's I have at multiple locations. I prefer to have full control over remote access (vs relying on their remote management implementation) and won't be surprised if they start charging a user subscription or licensing fee at some point for their cloud/remote management features.
Their efg can do up to 12.5g ips routing for $2k of course

Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:10 pm
by vtran33
For those interested, I've had the Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Fiber for about 2 weeks and with IDS/IPS enabled, my speedtest throughput is about 5-6Gbps up/down.

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Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:10 pm
by drbubbles
Nice, Ubiquiti just put their new 8x10Gbps RJ45 + 2x SFP+ port layer 3 switch up on their website, says available May (which likely means end of May) It's the Pro XG 8 PoE for $500. This will play well with the UCG-Fiber or UXG-Fiber gateways.
I'm using a UXG-Fiber rather than the UCG-Fiber as that allows me to adopt both it and another one (eventually) at a different address into the same controller. The controller is running on a Synology NAS. I was a bit nervous about how updates would be handled but it was simply a button press on the Synology web interface. So it is a reasonable alternative to the UCG-Fiber and is not permanently out of stock.
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 1:46 pm
by davygrvy
Or
build your own...
Code: Select all
root@OpenWrt:~# speedtest --output text --test-server speedtest.sjc.sonic.net:8080
IP=23.93.201.114
IP_LAT=37.8043
IP_LON=-122.216
PROVIDER=Sonic.net, LLC
TEST_SERVER_HOST=speedtest.sjc.sonic.net:8080
TEST_SERVER_DISTANCE=4.5573e-41
LATENCY=0
JITTER=0
DOWNLOAD_SPEED=9216.68
UPLOAD_SPEED=3690.09
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 11:17 am
by daniel15
drbubbles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:10 pm
Nice, Ubiquiti just put their new 8x10Gbps RJ45 + 2x SFP+ port layer 3 switch up on their website, says available May (which likely means end of May) It's the Pro XG 8 PoE for $500.
Very interesting product. Looks like Ubiquiti will finally have a product that competes with the MikroTik CRS312-4C+8XG-RM, with PoE! The MikroTik also used to be around $500, but probably not any more thanks to tariffs. Both switches are 10Gbps level 3 fully managed switches, with hardware offloading for things like inter-VLAN routing.
Re: [Guide] What equipment to buy for Sonic 10 Gigabits Fiber
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 1:23 pm
by crbowman
Does anyone have a route10? Can it handle full 10GBit? Can you configure it locally via a web interface or does it need the cloud or a separate controller device?