custom AMPRNet Ip address announcements

[kj6dzb]

I writing to request a custom IP address announcement, it an unique request and Im hope Sonic will work with me to get this going.

Im a ham radio operator KJ6DZB, I live in west berkeley and Im pre ordered to have fiber installed. https://www.ampr.org/ provides a whole block of IPV4 addresses. Ive been assigned a block for quite a few years now, its been difficult to maintain the tunnel for routing table announcements. Im seeking sonic's assistance. If they would be willing to announce my AMPRNet allocation in accordance with the terms of the AMPRNet Terms of Service and Acceptable Use. http://www.ampr.org/terms-of-service/

https://www.ampr.org/

http://wiki.ampr.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://wiki.ampr.org/wiki/Announcing_yo ... n_directly


Mathison Ott KJ6DZB

[patty1]

Wow, AMPRNet, there's a term I haven't heard in eons!


Patty N6BIS
44.4.4.44

[dane]

We do announce and route customer-owned address space for large business clients, but this isn’t a capability we can support on the FTTH network.

Curious though, what size network allocation do they provide? Is it a /24?

[dane]

Never mind, I figured it out. It looks like from a /32 to a /27. But nothing smaller than a /24 can practically be announced via BGP in the modern Internet, even if we were able to do that on a consumer product.

Sounds like via tunnel or over the radio are the practical paths for use of this address space.

[kj6dzb]

44.4.4.64 / 27 is the block.

Is sonic able to provide BGP announcement for this block on a service hookup?

73
Mathison Kj6dzb cm87uv

[kj6dzb]

Im looking to provide an IP to RF Gateway, that's not a tunnel.

FYI there is a US based microwave MESH network project. AREDN https://www.aredn.org/

[dane]

44.4.4.64 / 27 is the block.

Is sonic able to provide BGP announcement for this block on a service hookup?

73
Mathison Kj6dzb cm87uv

No, it's not possible to announce a block of this size into the global BGP. We only announce /24 and larger blocks, and only for multihomed commercial customers.

[kj6dzb]

I would think its futile but this is much smaller range 44.4.4.64/27 ?


I'm really disappointed with your response.

73
Mathison

[dane]

I would think its futile but this is much smaller range 44.4.4.64/27 ?


I'm really disappointed with your response.

73
Mathison

The smallest address block we can announce is a class C, /24, X.X.X.0/24. And this is only possible on a business dedicated internet access connection, when multi-homed (BGP hosted at the customer premise, with two or more ISP uplinks.) Our consumer access equipment which delivers DSL and GPON does not have BGP capabilities.

[An observer]

The /24 maximum prefix length for a provider-independent IPv4 address block announced by BGP isn’t Sonic’s decision: it’s the consensus by network operators on the Internet not to accept announcements for longer prefixes, like your /27, to avoid adding even more entries to the default-free IPv4 routing table for the Internet, which is already at tremendous size (nearly 750,000 routes) and growing every year, as this chart shows:

https://bgp.potaroo.net/as6447/

Even if Sonic had the equipment and wanted to try announcing a /27 for you, their peers would probably just ignore the announcement, so it wouldn’t work. This may be one reason AMPR’s page says, “Direct announcements of AMPRNet address allocations are usually reserved for larger regional or country wide networks,” it being assumed that such networks would have /24 or shorter prefixes.