Is your profile consistently 13 Mb/s? If so, you should expect an approximate double of your current bandwidth with x2. Real world speeds tend to be less than the theoretical.agav wrote:Actually getting 13Mbps, so updating to X2 sounds great, Dane! Wonderful news - good that I keep an eye on the forum. Stupid question, but do we need to run a second copper line?
Just out of interest - in a best case what real world speeds would customers get on the VDSL2 lines?
Support says I am not eligible for X2, because I am slightly less than 5000 feet away.m2m3 wrote: Concerning expected speeds with VDSL2, that is not an easy question to answer. The only way to truly find out is to wait for the deployment into your area and test it with a Sonic VDSL2 compatible modem if you are within the ~5,000 ft. limit. I doubt that Sonic would want to give you a VDSL2 modem outside of that range since any performance from that technology is theoretically restricted to within 1,500 meters (~5,000 ft.) Any performance outside of that range is going to coincide with the already available ADSL2 or 2+ standard. In other words, you are not likely to gain anything.
What is your distance according to Sonic's address availability query?
I guess I have to wait for VDSL2 then. Given that I would have potentially gotten something around ~25Mbs with X2 given my current line speeds, any chances that VDSL2 will be as fast as that or faster?
I think that the support person was telling you to wait for VDSL2 before you try X2 because if your performance increases satisfactorily with VDSL2, then you won't need X2 and you avoid all charges to set it up and implement it. Basically, Sonic is trying to save you money if you don't need X2; however, you can always upgrade to X2 later if you just want the fastest speed possible over your line. That is what I am thinking of doing.agav wrote:Support says I am not eligible for X2, because I am slightly less than 5000 feet away.m2m3 wrote: Concerning expected speeds with VDSL2, that is not an easy question to answer. The only way to truly find out is to wait for the deployment into your area and test it with a Sonic VDSL2 compatible modem if you are within the ~5,000 ft. limit. I doubt that Sonic would want to give you a VDSL2 modem outside of that range since any performance from that technology is theoretically restricted to within 1,500 meters (~5,000 ft.) Any performance outside of that range is going to coincide with the already available ADSL2 or 2+ standard. In other words, you are not likely to gain anything.
What is your distance according to Sonic's address availability query?
Yes, this is correct. A single line of VDSL2 is $40/mo, no increase in service fee, whereas going to X2 increases your cost by $20/mo. Now in the end, you may WANT two lines of VDSL2, but it would make little sense and be very costly to add a second line of ADSL2+ and then move both of those to VDSL2.m2m3 wrote:I think that the support person was telling you to wait for VDSL2 before you try X2 because if your performance increases satisfactorily with VDSL2, then you won't need X2 and you avoid all charges to set it up and implement it. Basically, Sonic is trying to save you money if you don't need X2; however, you can always upgrade to X2 later if you just want the fastest speed possible over your line. That is what I am thinking of doing.
The bonding means that you will have two circuits, instead of one, coming from the CO that will be combined at the end user's premises via copper pairs. Instead of your single pair, you will now have two pairs combined and fed into your upgraded VDSL2 modem.Just to clarify because I am not entirely sure how this works:
X2 for me right now would mean we'd run a second copper wire or just use the existing and do something differently on the modem side?
After the upgrade, you will be running off of VDSL2 technology--not ASDL/2 anymore. You will be able to add a second circuit which will provide your X2 paired bonding if VDSL2 (which is a single pair) is not sufficient.Theoretically, you would offer VDSL X2? Because otherwise X2 ADSL2+ would give me 100% speed increase, which might be better than a single line VDSL.
If I recall correctly, Dane stated last September or October that it would take 6 months from then to upgrade the entire network; so, it appears that they should have everything done by April 2015. Anyways, you should be notified when your location is ready for the upgrade. The question will be whether upgrades will happen at the end or during the completion of each area.And how long should I expect to wait for VDSL? Do you need a guinea pig for the rollout?
Thanks!
