I think it's much much much more likely that this is due to the massive increase in subscribers than wanting you gone. Since fiber rolled out in my neighborhood there's been a non-stop parade of Sonic trucks on my street. It's a fairly dense neighborhood with several large apartment complexes. It's very likely that the VPN resources are getting hammered and they just guessed incorrectly about what the increase in usage would look like. Hopefully, they upgrade the service. It's really awesome they offer this, and I love being able to use it in when I'm on public wifi.elmatador wrote:I've also tried the beta and agree with you. The vpn is hosed. Maybe Dane wants us gone, we're not worth the hassle anymore. A shame, been with Sonic a long time, before the FTTN product came out.
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Whatever is going on, it's not the VPN cluster that's the problem.
Using the OpenVPN Connect client on desktop at home via ~1G Xfinity service (the only viable service available at my home) I'm able to go over 100Mbits. https://www.speedtest.net/result/14808693509
Using the OpenVPN Connect client on desktop at home via ~1G Xfinity service (the only viable service available at my home) I'm able to go over 100Mbits. https://www.speedtest.net/result/14808693509
Kelsey Cummings
System Architect, Sonic.net, Inc.
System Architect, Sonic.net, Inc.
No issues here either over my Comcast 400 Mbps plan though I did change the cipher to aes-256-gcm over cbc.... Certainly beats my Digital Ocean ovpn droplet
ovpn.sonic.net: Digital Ocean:
ovpn.sonic.net: Digital Ocean:
Things seem to have returned to normal right now. I'll keep an eye on it and see what it does again in the morning.
We're hoping you can help us to determine whether this is an issue with all traffic from AT&T to Sonic, or something else. Pleas do the following the next time you are experiencing an issue like this for an extended period (at least 5-10 minutes). Run the speed test at https://www.sonic.com/speedtest with your Sonic VPN connection active, then run one without. If you see speed issues in BOTH cases, please also provide a traceroute to speedtest.sonic.net if you are able, as well as the subnet your connection is coming from (just the /24, not your individual address).
Thank you for helping us track this down
Thank you for helping us track this down
Tomoc
Sonic NOC
Sonic NOC
I'm glad to see that it is being looked at! I appear to be experiencing it again this evening. I'll run those tests for you.
The speedtest from the Sonic VPN: https://sonic.speedtestcustom.com/resul ... f55041445c
Subnet: 192.184.191.0/24
And the speedtest from just on AT&T: https://sonic.speedtestcustom.com/resul ... c5a2b0dec8
Subnet: 75.25.120.0/24
And for kicks, this is through just AT&T with the Sonic VPN completely disconnected (so nothing is sharing the pipe): https://sonic.speedtestcustom.com/resul ... bcebaecc5e
Subnet: 75.25.120.0/24
Subnet: 192.184.191.0/24
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dkirker@flying-toaster:~$ traceroute speedtest.sonic.net
traceroute to speedtest.sonic.net (157.131.0.37), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 atlas.snvaca01.openmobl.com (10.0.8.1) 0.334 ms 0.400 ms 0.453 ms
2 192-184-191-129.static.sonic.net (192.184.191.129) 29.937 ms 30.483 ms 31.230 ms
3 0.irb.378.access6-8.snrtcamn.sonic.net (157.131.224.195) 292.569 ms 292.774 ms 292.954 ms
4 * 0.ae0.cr2.snjsca11.sonic.net (50.0.79.157) 54.602 ms *
5 0.et-0-0-52.cr2.snrtcamn.sonic.net (75.101.36.41) 52.353 ms 52.543 ms 0.et-0-0-53.cr2.snrtcamn.sonic.net (70.36.205.69) 52.078 ms
6 0.ae1.cr4.snrtcamn.sonic.net (192.184.185.189) 43.324 ms 34.788 ms 34.899 ms
7 0.ae2.cr2.ptlmca01.sonic.net (192.184.185.177) 31.957 ms 40.626 ms 40.545 ms
8 0.ae1.cr3.snrfca01.sonic.net (23.93.52.254) 43.363 ms 43.589 ms 43.725 ms
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14 0.ae0.cs1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.209.198) 46.683 ms 57.176 ms 57.252 ms
15 0.xe-0-0-40.vm-dist1-1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.208.182) 43.410 ms 43.543 ms 43.709 ms
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Subnet: 75.25.120.0/24
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dkirker@flying-toaster:~$ traceroute speedtest.sonic.net
traceroute to speedtest.sonic.net (157.131.0.37), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 homeportal (192.168.1.254) 0.560 ms 1.007 ms 1.408 ms
2 75-25-120-1.lightspeed.snvaca.sbcglobal.net (75.25.120.1) 22.282 ms 22.588 ms 23.140 ms
3 71.148.148.25 (71.148.148.25) 24.474 ms 24.453 ms 24.848 ms
4 12.242.117.22 (12.242.117.22) 29.111 ms 29.085 ms 29.380 ms
5 192.205.32.90 (192.205.32.90) 30.165 ms 30.606 ms 30.884 ms
6 be2431.ccr31.sjc04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.88.190) 32.148 ms 25.012 ms 25.498 ms
7 38.104.141.82 (38.104.141.82) 27.307 ms 27.304 ms 26.359 ms
8 102.ae1.cr1.pao1.sonic.net (70.36.205.5) 71.011 ms 70.908 ms 70.823 ms
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10 0.ae0.cs1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.209.198) 200.527 ms 200.478 ms 0.ae0.cs2.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.209.206) 47.467 ms
11 0.xe-0-0-40.vm-dist1-2.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.210.30) 43.016 ms 0.xe-0-0-40.vm-dist1-1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.208.182) 44.925 ms 44.877 ms
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dkirker@flying-toaster:~$ traceroute speedtest.sonic.net
traceroute to speedtest.sonic.net (157.131.0.37), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 api.home (192.168.1.254) 1.088 ms 1.376 ms 1.350 ms
2 75-25-120-1.lightspeed.snvaca.sbcglobal.net (75.25.120.1) 22.131 ms 22.690 ms 24.102 ms
3 71.148.148.25 (71.148.148.25) 24.082 ms 24.314 ms 25.017 ms
4 12.242.117.22 (12.242.117.22) 27.916 ms 29.092 ms 29.072 ms
5 192.205.32.90 (192.205.32.90) 30.474 ms 30.455 ms 30.841 ms
6 be2431.ccr31.sjc04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.88.190) 32.486 ms 30.292 ms 30.892 ms
7 38.104.141.82 (38.104.141.82) 31.941 ms * 26.248 ms
8 102.ae1.cr1.pao1.sonic.net (70.36.205.5) 66.089 ms 66.022 ms 33.202 ms
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10 0.ae0.cs2.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.209.206) 48.136 ms 48.102 ms 0.ae0.cs1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.209.198) 41.471 ms
11 0.xe-0-0-40.vm-dist1-1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.208.182) 47.660 ms 0.xe-0-0-40.vm-dist1-2.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.210.30) 50.650 ms 0.xe-0-0-40.vm-dist1-1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.208.182) 47.539 ms
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dkirker@flying-toaster:~$ traceroute speedtest.sonic.net
traceroute to speedtest.sonic.net (157.131.0.37), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 api.home (192.168.1.254) 0.831 ms 1.009 ms 1.255 ms
2 75-25-120-1.lightspeed.snvaca.sbcglobal.net (75.25.120.1) 187.711 ms 187.691 ms 187.935 ms
3 71.148.148.25 (71.148.148.25) 187.915 ms 188.192 ms 188.448 ms
4 12.242.117.22 (12.242.117.22) 190.816 ms 192.817 ms 194.105 ms
5 192.205.32.90 (192.205.32.90) 193.261 ms 193.240 ms 193.817 ms
6 be2431.ccr31.sjc04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.88.190) 194.676 ms 193.252 ms 193.573 ms
7 * 38.104.141.82 (38.104.141.82) 193.456 ms 193.836 ms
8 102.ae1.cr1.pao1.sonic.net (70.36.205.5) 199.393 ms 199.336 ms 199.629 ms
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10 0.ae0.cs2.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.209.206) 673.087 ms 673.031 ms 0.ae0.cs1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.209.198) 213.991 ms
11 0.xe-0-0-40.vm-dist1-1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.208.182) 205.914 ms 205.880 ms 0.xe-0-0-40.vm-dist1-2.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.210.30) 215.225 ms
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dkirker@flying-toaster:~$ traceroute speedtest.sonic.net
traceroute to speedtest.sonic.net (157.131.0.37), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 igateway (192.168.1.254) 0.796 ms 1.113 ms 1.349 ms
2 75-25-120-1.lightspeed.snvaca.sbcglobal.net (75.25.120.1) 22.545 ms 22.525 ms 22.946 ms
3 71.148.148.25 (71.148.148.25) 23.622 ms 25.443 ms 25.423 ms
4 12.242.117.22 (12.242.117.22) 28.461 ms 28.442 ms 28.423 ms
5 192.205.32.90 (192.205.32.90) 29.930 ms 30.887 ms 30.868 ms
6 be2431.ccr31.sjc04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.88.190) 32.146 ms 30.645 ms 31.028 ms
7 38.104.141.82 (38.104.141.82) 84.851 ms 63.259 ms 63.216 ms
8 102.ae1.cr1.pao1.sonic.net (70.36.205.5) 30.845 ms 30.801 ms 26.957 ms
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10 0.ae0.cs1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.209.198) 42.970 ms 42.939 ms 43.230 ms
11 0.xe-0-0-40.vm-dist1-2.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.210.30) 46.942 ms 63.408 ms 0.xe-0-0-40.vm-dist1-1.equinix-sj.sonic.net (157.131.208.182) 35.975 ms
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But there might be some issues at one or more of the interchanges. I'm currently in southern Oregon, on a 300/12 Mbps Spectrum connection. At speedtest.sonic.net I get 260/12 Mbps without VPN, and 41/11 with VPN.kgc wrote:Whatever is going on, it's not the VPN cluster that's the problem.
I'm using OpenVPN Connect 3.3.7 (2979) with the profile provided by Sonic.
I sent Tomoc my trace routes via private message but for the rest of the board:
As noted in my original post that started this thread. I had no internet connectivity unless I DID use the sonic vpn.
Currently I have full speed connectivity through AT&T(FTTN) with the vpn off and they route traffic to a local speedtest.net site in Socal(22.93Mbps) and changing the server to Pigs Can Fly in San Francisco(22.96Mbps).
With vpn off and using sonic.com/speedtes I get 4.5Mbs
With vpn on and using sonic.com/speedtest I get 3.3Mbs
As noted in my original post that started this thread. I had no internet connectivity unless I DID use the sonic vpn.
Currently I have full speed connectivity through AT&T(FTTN) with the vpn off and they route traffic to a local speedtest.net site in Socal(22.93Mbps) and changing the server to Pigs Can Fly in San Francisco(22.96Mbps).
With vpn off and using sonic.com/speedtes I get 4.5Mbs
With vpn on and using sonic.com/speedtest I get 3.3Mbs
For now, we're tackling one problem at a time. We have routed all outbound traffic towards AT&T (AS7018) away from the transit provider we believe to be saturated. We have a ticket open with them as well and have provided ping/traceroute data showing the latency/loss. As we are not direct AT&T customers, it is difficult to request that they re-route their outbound traffic towards us. Although it's a long shot, it may be worth reporting this problem to AT&T as well, as they do have the ability to migrate traffic off of the congested links.
Tomoc
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