What's going on with the micro trenching law in SF?

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by jdardis » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:18 pm
dane wrote:
guest234109 wrote:It's been a couple of months since I last heard about micro trenching in SF. Dane posted about how the last iteration of the law wouldn't help Sonic because of the specifications.

What's the deal with it? Is it moving forward? Did they revise the specs?
...SF leadership and staff are actively working on this, and we remain hopeful that they'll make progress toward a usable standard. They've been engaged, and good about keeping us informed.
@Dane

Are there any updates available here and is there anything we can do as citizens of SF to help move this forward?

I'm currently a very happy Sonic Fiber customer on 19th Ave but am moving to a new house near 32nd and Fulton in that little black hole without fiber (due to underground lines) and am extremely interested in doing anything I can to help here.
by castroQ1 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:06 pm
echoing jdardis – I've been on AT&T's line for a year now (introductory discount just ended) on Castro St. and would love to get an update on this!
by dane » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:48 pm
City of SF still hasn't completed any changes to allow for new trenchless underground utility construction. I'm hopeful though, as they are engaged in a procurement process for citywide fiber, and that'd be really infeasible without microtrenching and directional boring.
Dane Jasper
Sonic
by ankh » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:00 am
A news tidbit, perhaps relevant:
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| San Francisco's Community Broadband Could Solve Net Neutrality and Privacy Issues |
| from the yes-carrier dept. |
| posted by mrpg on Saturday February 24, @18:23 (Digital Liberty) |
| https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=18/02/24/047258 |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

[0]takyon writes:

[1]San Francisco: Building Community Broadband to Protect Net Neutrality
and Online Privacy

Like many cities around the country, San Francisco is considering an
investment in community broadband infrastructure: high-speed fiber
that would make Internet access cheaper and better for city
residents. Community broadband [2]can help alleviate a number of
issues with Internet access that we see all over America today. Many
Americans have no choice of provider for [3]high-speed Internet,
[4]Congress eliminated user privacy protections in 2017, and the
[5]FCC decided to roll back net neutrality protections in December.

This week, San Francisco published the recommendations of a group of
experts, including EFF's Kit Walsh, regarding how to protect the
privacy and speech of those using community broadband.

This week, [6]the Blue Ribbon Panel on Municipal Fiber released its
[7]third report, which tackles competition, security, privacy, net
neutrality, and more. It recommends San Francisco's community
broadband require net neutrality and privacy protections. Any ISP
looking to use the city's infrastructure would have to adhere to
certain standards. The model of community broadband that EFF favors
is sometimes called "dark fiber" or "open access." In this model, the
government invests in fiber infrastructure, then opens it up for
private companies to compete as your ISP. This means the big
incumbent ISPs can no longer block new competitors from offering you
Internet service. San Francisco is pursuing the "open access" option,
and is quite far along in its process.

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[8]Original Submission

Discuss this story at:
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=18/02/24/047258

Links:
0. https://soylentnews.org/~takyon/
1. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/s ... and-online
2. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/01/c ... al-control
3. https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attac ... 16-6A1.pdf
4. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
5. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/12/t ... u-can-help
6. https://sfmunifiber.org/
7. https://sfmunifiber.files.wordpress.com ... report.pdf
8. https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=vi ... ubid=25026
by user2323423 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:48 pm
jdardis wrote:
dane wrote:
guest234109 wrote:It's been a couple of months since I last heard about micro trenching in SF. Dane posted about how the last iteration of the law wouldn't help Sonic because of the specifications.

What's the deal with it? Is it moving forward? Did they revise the specs?
...SF leadership and staff are actively working on this, and we remain hopeful that they'll make progress toward a usable standard. They've been engaged, and good about keeping us informed.
@Dane

Are there any updates available here and is there anything we can do as citizens of SF to help move this forward?

I'm currently a very happy Sonic Fiber customer on 19th Ave but am moving to a new house near 32nd and Fulton in that little black hole without fiber (due to underground lines) and am extremely interested in doing anything I can to help here.
Welcome to my block. We're one of the few blocks in Richmond where our utility poles are in the backyards and fed underground.
by guest944343 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:53 pm
Any updates on this?
by eltonhom » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:41 am
It's been 5 years since this thread was posted. It's ridiculous. Dish Network just dropped ESPN today. I'm about to drop Dish and just go with something like Hulu Live or FuboTV. But I can't do that with 5 mbps Sonic ADSL. If I can't get Sonic Fiber on my block, I will sadly have to also drop Sonic. I will need to go to the darkside of Comcast Xfinity for internet and TV. They have a flex 4K streaming deal. Someone talk me out of this.

Dish dropped NBC Sports Bay Area (Comcast) last year so I can't watch Giants games anymore. Now ESPN/DIsney. Looks like the smaller guys keep getting the shaft.
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